January 16th, 2009

Footballers’ Wives: Bad Role Models?

The “WAGs as role models” debate continues:

This clip from the BBC features Caroline Jordan, headmistress of St George’s school in Ascot.  She’s recently thrown down some fighting words about WAGs being terrible role models for young women, saying that a girl should work to be known for her own individual talents rather than who she’s married. 

Snore. We think it’s time this argument was put to bed, don’t you? 

Some women married to footballers have jobs and careers, whilst others like to party, drink and fall over whilst wearing designer-gear.  Some work tirelessly to make topless modeling a recognized competitive sport, and many WAGs are single-handedly keeping the world’s retail economy afloat. As a debate, it’s all so 2006 post-World Cup.

The BBC presenter puts forward the idea that for some women, marrying a footballer with lots of money can actually be empowering.  Indeed, we would most certainly feel empowered, if not extremely giddy, if we were presented with a chequebook with the name, Mrs. Casillas imprinted on it. Oh, yes we would.

WAG-cum-TV presenter, Lizzie Cundy argues that many footy wives she knows are very dedicated to their families and have careers of their own. She says, “They’re not like Amy Winehouse or Britney Spears, who are in and out of rehab… I mean, what is their worst crime, shopping?“

Indeed.

Your thoughts? Are you as non-plussed about this topic as we are?

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26 Responses to “Footballers’ Wives: Bad Role Models?”

  1. carly says:

    Lizzie Cundy is the best wag,she works,she is intelligent ,great tv presenter and model and looks fabulous! She is a business women in her own right,yeah i want to be like her and i admire what she says! girl power!!

  2. Baby Freya (Mrs Arbe says:

    Okay, i have no idea who these WAG's are so who cares!? They all look like snooty little tarts to me who wouldn't know a days work if it hit them in the face with the latest Hermes handbag!!

  3. Dani.Mrs José says:

    i agree Becca its up to girls what they want to do ! im sure there are worse people in the world that we can slag off

  4. RedGirl (Mrs. Casill says:

    That's true!! When I show my chequebook with the Mrs. Casillas I feel sooo good XD God I'm so childish =P

  5. Football Rumours says:

    They don’t look all that, Michaela Henderson – Thynne in particular…

  6. Der Lutscher says:

    Maybe it’s only british WAGs that cause so much fuss, coz other european footie wives are more of a real wives and mothers than public figures. They just manage to stay calmly out of a spotlight and lead normal regular lives even when being in public. Because if you dont want to be photographed, you just dont get photographed (at least not that much). But, anyway, maybe it’s not the women themselves, but the press, photographers, paps who had made up the whole phenomenon and keep fucking our brains.

  7. Holyoke says:

    Because I know Alex is going to be mentioned here in a negative light by people who really don’t know much about her and Stevie (which I’m not saying I do, but I know enough based on reading his books and etc, so more than an outsider who doesn’t care about them and will just pass judgment): Alex didn’t start out being a WAG. The whole WAG phenomenon started years after they got together. When they first got together Stevie had to do the chasing because she didn’t care for him. He wasn’t captain yet and the most famous Liverpool player was Michael Owen. Stevie was known as a talent but kind of inconsistent and Gerard Houllier would criticize him in the papers. He wasn’t much of a catch as he is now, and in fact he was the one who convinced her to have kids. As for whether or not she is a good mother or not, I don’t think we should base that judgment on the fact that she seems to go on holiday a lot, shops too much, or parties too much. Even if she does that, Stevie should do his share of the parenting too, considering she wakes them up and drives Lilly to school (IDK if Lexie does yet) when Stevie’s at training, and she takes care of them when he has away games in the league/Europe, or matches with the England NT. I don’t care if he has a very taxing job, he decided he wants kids, and the kids were made out of his sperm, so he should do his job as a father too. If Alex had a real job, you’d all be complaining that she’s too focused on being a working woman instead of taking care of the kids. It’s really annoying, but we’ve been pre-conditioned to believe that man=works, woman=barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. Also, on the contrary, if she was the working parent, and if Stevie wasn’t and just decided to buy cars and spend her money, no one here would be batting an eyelid.

  8. Becca says:

    i just think its up to girls what they wanna do, i dont see them as bad role models and surely they can think of a bit of a better person to blamee .. ahh get a lifee ! lol

  9. Jon E says:

    Role model, topless model, what’s the difference?

    I don’t know any of these women personally, so I don’t have worthwhile opinions about them as individuals. But I dislike the kind of WAG behavior that generally makes the news (I just spent

  10. lesli says:

    they are allow to to what the haak they went. live is about choices.

  11. breyana says:

    I think it’s whatever the woman chooses I mean she definitely was not forced to marry a football player it really just depends on what you want.

  12. Jelly says:

    Lizzy cundy is a legend and so right. I love her. If these people believe WAGs are bad role models find another for your children. Someone mentioned it below. WAGs are not role models just women married to footballers.

  13. Aianna (Mrs. Jim&eac says:

    I don't think WAGs are role models. Does anyone know why the Man Utd boys have been wearing black armbands in the past two matches?

  14. livealittle says:

    i'd wager the majority of WAGs have careers (and i don't mean topless modeling). it's unfair to define a whole popoulation by a few well-known people. it's a dead argument, let's move on Kickette.

  15. FirstTeamCoach says:

    It is only the minority of Wags that are in the public eye. I have met quite a few, and most of them are normal, working in offices, shops, with kids etc until they have family. The only difference is the size of the cheque book, and most of them do not flaunt that in front of their friends. Although I have been 'treated' many times. Most of them do not travel to away matches, and they are 'home alone' with the children a lot – more than I could handle. It is only the few 'high profile' Wags married to 'high profile' players who court/attract the media attention.

  16. TammyV says:

    It is a very typical battle of the role of women in society…they are living off their rich husbands, regardless of the fact that they are stay-at-home moms to young children (Alex, Elen, etc). Generally the ones without kid are working, maybe not science but by in fashion, or modeling, or designing (Abby, Colleen, etc). When Alex goes out with her friends and is seen drunkly falling out of a club or on vacation with the girlfriends, the comments are always "why is she not at home with her kids." Or when Elen took her girls on vacation, after what had to be a stressful Christmas, the first since Frank's mom died and chelsea tanking, she was mocked for leaving Frank to be sad all on his own, which she was living it up by the pool. the other "WAGs" without kids, generally work. They have tv shows, modeling jobs, lawyers, business work, trainers, etc. But even when they go off on vacations, they get judged for spending their time away from their men. Colleen had one of many bachlorette parties during one of the CL matches, yeah. The season is 40 weeks long and he gets 1 month off a year. Something is ALWAYS going to be happening in the footballing word when they go on vaca. WAGs as a whole have a rather difficult position of having to be flexiable to travel with their man when he goes to CL/UEFA/International duty matches, which means missing a lot of time at a traditional job. in a lot of ways, they are extremely luckly and financially well-off; but in other ways it has to be hard – knowing that your man is the target of girls around the world who just want to sleep with them and then wedge you out of place, being damned if you do and damed if you don't work/take care of teh family, etc

  17. carly says:

    I think you're right Kickette, it's a very 2006 argument. Been there, done that. When it comes down to biological and genetical factors, we (women) are at some point in our lives trying to find the best specimen of the male species to have children with. So when we manage to get it, it is empowering, because at the end of the day we're in charge!

  18. TammyV says:

    It is a very typical battle of the role of women in society…they are living off their rich husbands, regardless of the fact that they are stay-at-home moms to young children (Alex, Elen, etc). Generally the ones without kid are working, maybe not science but by in fashion, or modeling, or designing (Abby, Colleen, etc). When Alex goes out with her friends and is seen drunkly falling out of a club or on vacation with the girlfriends, the comments are always "why is she not at home with her kids." Or when Elen took her girls on vacation, after what had to be a stressful Christmas, the first since Frank's mom died and chelsea tanking, she was mocked for leaving Frank to be sad all on his own, which she was living it up by the pool. the other "WAGs" without kids, generally work. They have tv shows, modeling jobs, lawyers, business work, trainers, etc. But even when they go off on vacations, they get judged for spending their time away from their men. Colleen had one of many bachlorette parties during one of the CL matches, yeah. The season is 40 weeks long and he gets 1 month off a year. Something is ALWAYS going to be happening in the footballing word when they go on vaca. WAGs as a whole have a rather difficult position of having to be flexiable to travel with their man when he goes to CL/UEFA/International duty matches, which means missing a lot of time at a traditional job. in a lot of ways, they are extremely luckly and financially well-off; but in other ways it has to be hard – knowing that your man is the target of girls around the world who just want to sleep with them and then wedge you out of place, being damned if you do and damed if you don't work/take care of teh family, etc

  19. Avenath says:

    I don't think any WAG marries a footballer to become a role model…so, i think people should just decide themselves on who should and shouldn't be their role models…

  20. FootballerChick43 - says:

    Well, considering I'm in the age group that are "affected" by WAG-ish role models, my opinion may not be all that valid. But I totally agree with Lizzy Cundy – some of them are better than people such as Lindsay Lohan. However, I don't think its fair to lump them all into one category, whether good or evil. There are some that, yeah, they're absolute idiots, but there are others that seem like they're honest and down-to-earth. However roundabout and scatterbrained that was, thats my opinion.

  21. LizB (Mrs. Vucinic) says:

    Hmmmm. I don’t really look up to them, though some of them are wonderful people. Like Louise Owen for example, she is someone to look up to… but do I really expect classy things from Elen? No. And consequently I don’t really see her as a role model. Besides, I find them entertaining. What would I do with my spare time if they didn’t spend their’s doing utterly ridiculous and picture-worthy things?

  22. azezah says:

    from when did the wags started to become a role model,eh?

  23. autumnmaple101 says:

    Hmm WAGs are certainly no role models but it’s their business how they want to spend their man’s money. Ya good question Aianna.

  24. aristeia says:

    Defining them as a whole is unfair and ridiculous. This argument is done, agreed Kickette.

  25. carly says:

    I think you’re right Kickette, it’s a very 2006 argument. Been there, done that.

    When it comes down to biological and genetical factors, we (women) are at some point in our lives trying to find the best specimen of the male species to have children with. So when we manage to get it, it is empowering, because at the end of the day we’re in charge!

  26. lose that girl says:

    Caroline Jordan should use her time more wisely and investigate other reasons why kids aren’t achieving in school. Seriously? Blame the WAGs?! Get over it! Sounds like some petty jealousy. Stop reading OK and Heat, and speaking to the press, Ms. Jordan and do your *real* job.

    lose that girl blog