May 23rd, 2011

Injunction Issues: Ryan Giggs Is Outed

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Almost a whole year before Man City’s Yaya Touré fell victim, the dongle sign struck Ryan Giggs. Or is it the other way around?

Scotland’s Sunday Herald made a bold joke of one government enforced gag order over the weekend when it splashed an easily identifiable picture profile of the footballer at the centre of the EPL’s latest injunction scandal. Editor Richard Walker explained his decision to showcase one particular Manchester United icon’s barely-censored face by claiming he wished to expose ‘the lunacy of the situation’ (as opposed to  boosting newsstand sales of his Sunday paper, as naysayers are arguing). He continued by stating the obvious: ‘The law is not keeping up with with the way we live today.’

Coincidentally, earlier this morning the British tabloid, The Sun, tried but failed to overturn its own injunction which prevent the daily paper from printing details about the aforementioned footballer’s trysts with Imogen Thomas. Well, thanks to a loose-lipped Member of Parliament (or several, if you’re counting), we now know that the ‘love rat’ at the centre of a cheating scandal involving the reality telly ‘star’ is Ryan Giggs.

Since we chose to miss the boat(s) on speculating about this sensationally sordid situ, we can now confirm the following Tru Fax:

Fact: Imogen Thomas makes our teeth itch.

Fiction: Ryan Giggs is suing Twitter. Not so, due to many legal loopholes spanning the Atlantic Ocean. Technically-speaking, he was granted a search order by a UK High Court to try and uncover the identity of the user behind the now infamous Twitter handle, @injunctionsuper. Obvi there are many, many hurdles to a case such as this, so it’s likely this issue will never see the light of day.

Fact: Giggsy is making us sad by his ‘I’ll show you!’ attitude over silencing the truth. Which, in turn, makes us all the more sympathetic for his wife, Stacey (née Cooke), and his two bubbas, Zach and Libby.

Fact: We’re sure you’ve got plenty to say about this matter, Kickettes. In fact, several of you have already privately expressed your surprise and disappointment at the affair.

Fiction: It’s okay to go hog wild in our comments section. The usual guidelines apply in the usual locale. Any and all other defamatory statements and off topic debatery shall be deleted.

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126 Responses to “Injunction Issues: Ryan Giggs Is Outed”

  1. die steel says:

    Great thanks for sharing this article post.

  2. tim says:

    >have already privately expressed your surprise and disappointment at the affair.

    Most people were surprised.

    But if you talk to people who follow these things, Giggs has a reputation that was sub rosa and it wasnt a surprise when you read the list of 'accomplishments'.

  3. Ha isnøt this ironic? ( Imogen Thomas in Paddy power add for CL final) http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/05/25/article…

  4. Rite$h says:

    Giggs: "I want a USB port to put my "dongle" ;)

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  7. Josie says:

    Not justifying his behavior, because I don’t agree with it. However, we can’t be surprised by these types of revelations when it comes to world-class athletes. These men are constantly bombarded by women of all types and it probably can get very difficult at times to ignore them.

    If you add a marriage that is already under strain, it probably becomes next to impossible to resist a tryst.

  8. Jenn says:

    He's been my fav player for years and this won't change that but I'm still disappointed. I thought he wasn't one of those. I'm sure his wife loves him (he's not the golddigger type who wanted her 'model' career to get better or stuff like that, she never was in the spotlight or tried to be more famous etc.) and he has children. You just don't do things like that. Cheating on your gf is one thing (don't get me wrong, it's horrible aswell!) but cheating on your wife and kids, I don't have words for that. And that he risked ruining his reputation just to have an affair with some cheap girl is something I can't understand. He was well respected by many people and I fear this might change now. I just hope it won't affect his performance for United.

  9. athenarena says:

    Ugh, another cheating footballer. They seem all the rage right now. It seems so easy to forget that their marriage vows include fidelity. *sighs* Men, luckily we women are normally superior. Do any of you have some alcohol I can have please? This story is giving me a massive migraine thanks to how angry and disgusted it is making me.

    However, I do believe blame must be shared equally between the two. It takes two to tango and I ,as a female, cannot stand it when only one of the party get all the blame. She did state in an interview that she knew he was married PRIOR to starting the relationship and still went for it. She knew that he had a wife and kids at him and still opened her legs for six months. She thought he was different to other cheating footballers! All from the same interview done inside Defoe's house. That is just one of many she made and I mean many. She obviously has no morals and wants us all to be sycophants to her whims as proven by her twitter account which I have visited. Quite funny actually. Need a good laugh, follow the link Marina_Isabella posted. No, Imogen I will not kiss your ass, tell you what you want to hear -what a sycophant does- and take away your part of the blame due to your gender but I will tell the honest truth.

    His behaviour disgusts me. I was in no way exonerating him when I said what I said about Imogen above. But I want to tell how both of their behaviours disgust me. He has a loving wife, two wonderful kids and as a poster pointed out quite rightly at ages where the media is going to pounce on them and they are going to know about it. He never once stopped to think how this was going to affect them as we all know the press are like hounds and attack at anything including the children. He has risked the safety of his wife and children for a cheap fling. Anger is definitely building. That is what is most irksome, I a complete stranger and many of you who have stated sympathy for the innocent parties -the wife and children- are also complete strangers seem to care more about the consequences and the aftermath than Giggs ever did. He never one thought about the pyschological damage this could do. Oh no, having too much fun this one! The fact he could turn around and do it, sickens me. He was a legend and yet he destroyed it when he thought with his lower brain. Giggs, this was a pathetic act to do to your family, only caring about yourself and not what might happen.

    So for the sake of his wife and kids, I support the injunction one hundred percent as I do not want them hurt in anyway. An injunction to cover up his acts only? Bah, I would throw it out of court but there are innocent parties involved. That is probably why the injunction is being upheld. For their sakes, he just gets to tag along too.

  10. EStefi says:

    This is such a hard issue. I'm not trying to defend Giggs or whatsoever, but press can be so annoying and disrespectful sometimes… the limits between censorship and respect to privacy are often blurry and we must not forget that the most damaged people here are probably a woman and her children, who had done nothing wrong. We must hear all the bells before making a statement, and avoid making judgements, because things are usually not exactly as the press states them….

  11. Lotte says:

    Rosa, you stole the words out of my mouth.

  12. Ashley says:

    YAWN**** Another footballer caught cheating. Wake me up when Kaka, Raul, Iker or Torres does it. Going back to sleep.

  13. Marina_Isabella says:

    Btw… her twitter is so funny… she tells haters to smile and go away… LOL… [sarcasm] oh poor thang! [/sarcasm]… the rain of shit that is about to start falling all around her in the next few days.
    http://twitter.com/imogen_thomas

    I wonder exactly what was she expecting?… flowers and chocolates?

    Sometimes I wonder what's worse: the man that cheats or the hoe who tries with all her might to get footballer x's attention until she finally beds him?

  14. Marina_Isabella says:

    Why do men cheat so much?… Regardless of their status, and size of their wallets, etc… They just cheat, cheat, cheat!

  15. MadridistaJenn says:

    Clearly, there's no such thing as a perfect person, but I have absolutely no sympathy for Giggs or Imogen, neither of whom were thinking about the Stacey, Zach or Libby.
    Who I truly feel bad for are his wife and children. I couldn't began imagine what its like to be betrayed and have it be so public. I wish Stacey and her children all the best.

    • Gladys says:

      Totally agree with you! For me, this is the worst part of the whole thing.

  16. LisaB says:

    so effing depressed right now… why Giggsy WHY???

  17. @mezz98 says:

    Since I have not been following this story at all until now, can someone tell me if this alleged affair has been confirmed?

  18. MADRA BEAG says:

    He's pathetic. I feel for his wife and children (his daughter is old enough to get taunted at school) but I expect Giggs thinks his missus not going to leave the lifestyle, er, him and I further expect he's probably right. What he and, um, the other fellow who is suing the TV presenter are protecting with these injunctions is the next step given that they're getting on in footballing years …. media careers, a shot at managing their respective nations, etc. Spending wads of cash so their egos ca be stroked well into their 40s and 50s. And you know what? I'm sure Giggs and Mr Anonymous will get all those things anyway.

    Plus now people all over the world who wouldn't have recognized his name a month ago are talking about him … sad man.

  19. EternalDreamer says:

    Indeed, everyone has a right to privacy, but if you make your money from being in the public eye, like it or not, you willingly give up part of this privacy. In a case such as this it can be difficult as obviously his family will be affected (especially the children who probably wouldn't be privy to any confession from daddy). However, he made a choice not just one time, but for months, knowing that it could very well, and would very likely, get out into the public.

  20. JA7 says:

    Ugh why do they have to cheat? Seriously keep it in ur pants PEOPLE. It pisses me off when i hear these footballers being caught cheating and in these stupid sex scandals with prostitutes..like it's becoming so common now…aren't their guys with morals out there anymore?! I guess they're extinct..smh

  21. Sarah, Madrid says:

    Well said Laura!, really expressed what I feel!

  22. this one says:

    Men are men? Like women have no sexual desires!
    If a woman can avoid affairs, there is nothing in the male anatomy that can stop him from avoiding them either. This insane stereotype that a mans penis makes him more prone to having affairs is BULLSH*T.
    Apparently the majority of people have been conditioned to thinking that its "normal" or "OK" that a man cheats on a woman? No. He did it, he can prevent it, just like any other HUMAN BEING barring their sex.
    Whether he likes it or not, as much as there are huge pros in being a footballer there is also the con of having to be a PUBLIC FIGURE. I.e. You are no longer entitled to having such a "private" private life. This mallarky about him not being a role model, who cares about his private life, etc… Well apparently he is very much aware of it as he tried VERY hard to avoid it tarnishing his "image".
    Those avoiding the reality of his infidelity, his lack of respect to his wife, his children and the sanctity of the oath he took to be faithful are the very reason why the morals of the next generation are such a shambles, teen mothers, drugged up high schoolers and drunkards with no future everywhere.
    Bah. Ryan Giggs you are a disappointment and a disgrace, you and the sl*g you cheated with.,

  23. Honestly I can understand why he would go and get an injunction.
    He's a human being and deserves privacy. All this free speech stuff…what good is it when it will only hurt someone?

    Even if he was cheating, it's not OUR business. It's between him and his wife.
    Why must these tabloids be so cruel to go and dig up something that is already so difficult?

    I hate Manchester United but I will always respect Ryan Giggs. Perhaps this has lowered my view of him, but only slightly, and he still has my support. I'm not saying that extramarital affairs are acceptable, but he is only human and like all of us, make mistakes. So far he hasn't done anything else that removes him as a respectable player to me.

    Funny, I still don't hate him as much as I hate Rooney >.<

  24. Sandra says:

    It’s always the quiet ones that are dangerous. Shame on both of them from the sounds of it it seems like it’s been going on for a while now. The only ones I feel for are the children because I doubt the wife will leave him they never do the money and gucci handbags are so addicting. I look forward to the day a wag will put her foot down when her man cheats, it’s sad but 95% probably cheat or have even if it is exchanging numbers. They are on the road more than they are at home and the temptation is always there plus they will always have bro code what happens on the team stays there they are just good at hiding it.

  25. Rosa says:

    Because its the same old false moral outrage whenever a famous person is involved in infidelity. And Im quite fed up with how people are taking the moral high ground. It's not in the public interest to know what Tiger Woods, A. Cole, Giggs etc. do in the privacy of their own home. Its his life. People have a right to their opinion, but Im just pointing out the stupidity and hypocrisy regarding issues like these.

    • ciotog says:

      In real life someone I know cheats/ or is cheated on (or something else that I wouldn't do like say something racist/ sexist, cheat on taxes) – that is sh***y. Famous person does it- that is sh***y. Person not evil/ despicable/ will not organise lynch mob, they will however go down in my estimation. Famous/ real life person does something good- goes up in my estimation. Where is the stupidity/ hypocrisy?

  26. Kristine says:

    Why are people shocked when they hear about athletes cheating?

  27. suzie says:

    Although I believe everyone has the right to privacy I really think it's morally wrong for someone to use the law to cover up and hide their skanky behaviour. If he was that concerned about his families privacy he wouldn't have put them in this situation in the first place by having an affair. This whole thing has been badly handled by Giggsy, from start to finish and I've lost any respect I had for him.

  28. Sergz says:

    Seriously? I bet that tons of footballers have Maradona as their biggest football idol, but they're not lunatic alcoholics? They idolised him because he played magnificently, and that's it.

  29. Rosa says:

    At the end of the day its none of our business. When things like these happen people love to get on their high horse as if their own life is 100% clean.As long as Giggs is not anything criminal, then he can do whatever he wants. its his life. Yes, you all have a right to judge him, and that's the price famous ppl pay for their privilege.. But im just pointing out the sheer absurdity and hypocrisy about stuff like this.

  30. Rosa says:

    My b/f admired Paul Gascoigne, as did millions of other kids, and they didnt all turn into alcoholic wife-beating vermin. If young boys turn into wife-beaters or cheaters, then they would do so regardless of what football players do. People need a reality check and stop blaming footballers for the actions that people do.

  31. tapioca says:

    I can accept a footballer who has an affair (it's almost expected) but to have the arrogance to believe he could challenge the foundation on which all democracy is built – free speech – and get away with it because he is wealthy man is ridiculous. All he's succeeded in doing is increasing the pain and humiliation heaped upon his family, and like Zidane, he will sadly now be remembered for a moment of madness at the end of an otherwise glittering career. Great news for Barca though!

    • devilgirl says:

      You don't have much democracy in a country who choses to keep its monarchs.

  32. Lucy says:

    I was really really shocked that it could be Giggs when I first heard the rumours he was one I always thought wouldn't do this type of thing. I feel for his wife and kids, and can't imagine what it would have been like for his wofe to hear the songs about him yesterday. But I would like to see just ONE self respecting wag actually not put up with their husbands ex marital affairs.

  33. ciotog says:

    I don't think that applies when you have an affair with a glamour model who's personel life fuels her career. If you sleep with Jordan, Paris Hilton, Anyone from Big Brother ( and other reality t.v. programmes) etc. then you can't hide behind your expectation of privacy in my opinion. Don't want your private life all over the tabloids, then don't sleep with someone who's career is based on that.

  34. suzie says:

    You summed exactly how I feel about this.

  35. I don´t understand why you have minus votes some people feel the same way… oy maybe they are just LFC supporters

    • kim says:

      I don't understand that too, but I don't care. This is my opinion and I will always support Ryan, even if he did sth wrong. He is just a human and amazing football player.

    • you have to be a LFC supporter to think that Giggs is a pathetic cheating bastard?

  36. it´s hard to finf people like Kaká or Totti or Del Piero, but Giggsy!! I never imagine he can do something like that it´s hearth breaking :(

  37. @DebStimson says:

    I couldn't have said it better!

  38. FloraJane says:

    Ryan Giggs…Tearing It Apart Since…when? LMFAO
    Legend. Still scoring after all these years.

    It's just too easy! LOL

  39. samiam says:

    I love the way you put it! so completely true.

  40. No one is perfect and I'm not surprised either. I just don't understand why athletes cheat so much! But anyway, my mom always says that what lives in the dark will eventually come up to the light. Lies will catch up with you soon no matter how hard you try to cover them up. I'm disappointed, but I still respect his accomplishments. If this is true then he not only cheated on his wife, he cheated on his kids also.

  41. Kitty1979 says:

    Very eloquently put!

    I have always been an admirer of Giggs not just for his football skills but like others he always struck me as a family man. I am a life long United fan and remember Giggs' debut, I admired his professionalism and loyalty to his club. I have heard Giggs' name being batted around for a few weeks but didn't want to believe it. The last 2 sentences of your 2nd paragraph pretty much sum up my feelings.

  42. Anya says:

    I have a proposition. All of you footballers who had an affair – please, step up now, reveal your names, your prostitutes names, when it happened, say you're sorry and be done with it.

    No super injunctions, no suing of twitter, tabloids or God – say "it's me!" and just get it over with.

    I know that we're all stunned because Giggsy is a top class player, 12 league titles, 37 years and is still able to run, loyal blah blah blah…but maybe this case will stop putting players on a bloody pedestal and expect them to be pure angels. After the game, they are all humans.

    But on the other hand Giggsy? I don't know why, but I was pretty damn certain that it was Gerrard.

    • mamaly says:

      There are a few more footballers who got a superinjunction, so who knows!!!

    • AC_USA says:

      Yes so we don't have to get pissed off at them every day! Just be realy mad one day and get over it! :)

  43. Sergz says:

    I doubt little kids are reading the tabloids… All they know is what goes on during the games, I doubt little boys know about Ashley Cole's cheating.

  44. mena says:

    There's way too much mud to sift through in this mess, but I will say this: Ryan Giggs has been given some colossally bad advice. What in the world were his lawyers & advisors thinking?

    Public Relations Professors the world over will be using Ryan Giggs as an example of how NOT to manage the media during a scandal.

    • Raincitygirl says:

      Giggs is using the same law firm to get his injunctions as was used by John Terry to get his doomed superinjunction back in 2010. I'm starting to think that Schillings just aren't a very good law firm, with the way their clients seem to keep on making stupid legal decisions.

      • Linda says:

        Unless of course your aim is to create a certain kind of publicity to drown out any other kind of publicity – in which case they're geniuses.

  45. Sergz says:

    Ibra and Helena Seger are not married, but I get your point. :)

    • AC_USA says:

      And he still respects her more then some of the married ones :) Sad reality, I tell ya :)

  46. FloraJane says:

    And the award for Best Photo/Story Combo goes to….Kickette!!!

  47. Sergz says:

    Ryan Giggs has been my favourite footballer since I was 7 (i'm 20 years old now) and this scandal hasn't changed that.

    Sure, he's a jerk for cheating on his wife – i'm not defending him! I'm really, really disappointed because the image I had of him was clearly wrong. But we don't know the details about this affair, we only know that he did, indeed, cheat on his wife. But did it happen many times? Just once? Who came on to whom? Etcetera.

    He's still my favourite footballer because of what he has achieved on the pitch and his work with Unicef, this scandal just made me like him a bit less.

    • Lucy says:

      Well it was going on for 6 months so clearly it was more than once, and regardless of who came on to who, if she came on to him then could have turned him down, she didn't hold a gun to his head!

      • Sergz says:

        Six months!?

        Oh dear… I still adore Giggsy, I've "loved" him for 13 years and that can't disappear over night. But the respect I had for him is damaged.

  48. Devilish-x says:

    The reputation of football players just keeps on getting worse.
    Oh. I really don't know what to say. Giggsy? Damn. Its just bizzare..
    its the LAST thing we need before the huge game on saturday. Shucks.

  49. samiam says:

    I've stopped being surprised at footballers cheating. What makes me mad, though, is when they try to hide it. Maybe I'm too American on this, but no one should have the right to stop the press from printing the truth–especially when he/she has made a career on being a stand-up guy.

  50. FloraJane says:

    Not to mention that alot of what this site- and many, many others- does is to worry/chat/cry/laugh/etc. about the private lives of famous footballers! lol

  51. So disappointed :( and this comes before the CL final this is so bad :|

  52. Rory says:

    While I feel sad for his family, I am NEVER surprised when any pro athlete has been busted for cheating. I honestly feel that 99.9% of them are unfaithful at some point. Some seem less likely offenders than others, but they ALL do it. Let your kids or yourselves admire and look up to their athletic abilities, but not to their moral character. Sad but true.

    • Kristine says:

      I agree with you! They have women literally throwing themselves at them! Men are men. No matter how much they love their wives, they all want something new once in a while. And since the opportunities are so frequent with athletes, the odds are pretty high that they are going to give into it at some point!
      Any woman who marries an athlete thinking that they will be forever faithful is a fool.

  53. mochara says:

    Return of the Dongle sign!!

  54. Thea says:

    Giggsy was my favourite footballer – and this is a very sad turn of events. The only reason I can think he did this was because he was in too deep with Skanky Imogen and was sh1t scared she would blackmail him and instead of opting to be bled dry by a fame whoring SLAPPER he opted to proctect his privacy only to find that this would prove more problematic. He has always been the type to avoid publicity – but I think he should man up and face up to what he did. Not good for his family and his team especially in the run up to the CL final.

    • didactic says:

      No disrespect but as a man this is the type of thinking that excuses such behaviour. Giggs is the one who is married with children yet you are attacking the woman???. He is scum regardless of him "being your favorite footballer" or not and stop excusing him. Its also very clear now that this is not the first time he has done this just the first time he has been caught as the woman is a TV personality. Come on as women id expect you to see that and not defend such actions. They are both garbage but Ryan is that smelly, sticky goo at the bottom of the dumpster. His wife will not leave though so I wonder why they even bother with these stories.

    • ciotog says:

      I don't care about Imogen Thomas one way or the other but she is a single woman, she is free to sleep with whoever she wants. It's such a double standard you would never hear Calum Best described like that. Ryan Giggs is a married man with a family. I don't get why she is the skank/fame whoring SLAPPER looking to bled him dry and he simply got in too deep? He didn't get tricked or make one drunken mistake he repeatedly cheated on his wife with a glamour model and then used the law to gag his mistress. If he slept with her then she has every right to tell the world (I don't like kiss and tells but I feel sorry for the families not the cheater). If he didn't like publicity he should have kept it in his pants. Rant over!

      • hbandshbreak says:

        Thank you for this. They're both to blame, but obviously, she is free to do as she likes whereas Giggs is not. I'm always upset when I see women slut shaming other women while not giving the men equal blame. It speaks to a sort of self-loathing that I find really disturbing. I'm not saying Thomas should be given a pass but really? Heaping the bulk of the blame on her? Something is not right there.

      • I´m sorry but as a free woman she can do whatever you want to except to shag married men!

    • Raincitygirl says:

      Wait, somehow this is all Imogen Thomas's fault? Uh huh.

      He was married, she wasn't. Unless you're saying Ms. Thomas sexually assaulted him (as opposed to it being a consensual relationship), then it's his responsibility where he puts his dongle. If Ms. Thomas raped him, he needs to go to the police. If it was consensual, he should've kept his trousers zipped up, and then none of this would've happened.

    • mamaly says:

      You say anything to help Barca . LOL

      • Lotte says:

        Oh dear god!

      • Thea says:

        Well – I know it offended the feminists which I regret – but the silver lining may be Barca winning.

        Not saying Giggsy was perfect BUT the evidence suggests he was being blackmailed and Imogen cries on TV one moment and is on te cover of NUTS and Loades the next!??!! WTF!

    • tapioca says:

      Now, when you say "in too deep"…..

  55. Leaaa says:

    we are all doomed!

  56. Rosa says:

    And Giigs is no role model. The role model for my sons is me and my sons father. That's it. Ryan Giggs or any other footballer has no responsibility to raise my kids or yours. People really need to cut the nonsense about XYZ celebrity are role models. NO THEY ARE NOT.

    • Winnie Mata says:

      you are so right.
      people need to pick up the saddle on their kid's lives,
      and stop letting celebrities and the boob tube raise them.

      and i say this as someone at an age which some consider to be just a kid
      (nineteen, not really THAT young, but still)

    • Leya_S says:

      I've always had mixed feelings on the "celeb role models" issue:
      I def think that people should raise their own kids and be the MAIN influence in their children's lives. If you teach them right from wrong and a strong sense of self and morals, they should be (almost) impervious to the bad influences of others.
      HOWEVER
      I think most people could agree that its possible for even the best parents in the world to raise a child who might make occasional bad choices. And if those bad choices are glamorized in the sense that soooooooooooo many footballers are doing the same things, than I think there is a legitimate argument behind the idea that celebrities shouldn't be role models BUT THEY ARE. Unfortunately ballers have this "we make this look good" persona, whereby almost anything they do looks cool, whether its good or bad.

      • Rosa says:

        Maradona is [or was] a coke sniffing addict and a foul-mouthed fat alcoholic, All of that and he still has been adored by children for the last 30 years, and still is now. Al the kids who grew up and became drug addicts didn't become that cos of Maradona. They became that because they were messed up in the head & other reasons. Celebs only become role models if parents dont do their job properly – kids then look else where for inspiration.

        • Leya_S says:

          I understand what you're saying and I agree to an extent.
          But I'm only saying that you can't make a blanket statement that says if parents raise their kids "right" (and then of course, you'd have to define what constitutes "right"), than the celebs won't be role models for the children, bc that's just not the case. It's true that these are more moral compass issues than anything, so arguably anyone with good upbringing (read: morals) can easily make the decision to idolize Maradona as a player, but not do any of the destructive things he did. And I'm not saying that parents shouldn't actively raise their children; they should get off their high horses and not say "Celebs are corrupting the youth" when in reality, they should be monitoring their own kids. That is THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AS PARENTS.
          But I AM saying that no matter how well parents raise their children, it is POSSIBLE that there are other people who may influence their children's lives and decisions in almost as profound a way as the parents. It doesn't take much to stray from the path of good, as it were. To say that if children are raised right, than public figures, celebs or otherwise, can't influence children's lives and decision-making is simply naive.

    • Lotte says:

      You're right. Whatever happened to talking to your kids? When stuff like this happens then you talk to them and try to explain the harsch reality as good as you can. Kids understand and can take a lot more than you think. I can tell you that I have spent a considerable amount of time explaining tackles and quarrels between footballers to my 4-year old. He knows that you are not supposed to push anyone, so why do his beloved Ramos or Pique or Puyol (to name a few) do that? Then you have some explaining to do. Because it's your job.

      And I think you can teach kids at an early stage the difference between the footballer on the pitch and the same footballer off the pitch. To separate the two. And you can teach them that no matter who you are, or what you do, the same laws apply to all. And that good people sometimes can do bad things, and feel sorry afterwards.

      As I said, kids understand. But it is no small task to be a parent.

  57. Rosa says:

    So we will have yet another false moral outrage because a famous person did something immoral. Yawn. I love how the public, including me & people on this site, get on our high horse regarding morality. "OMG Giggs did something bad, lets get together and have an outrage and a witch-hunt". My opinion of Mr Giggs hasnt changed. He was an excellent player before today and he still is an excellent player and a fantastic pro. Im not even a Man Utd fan. People need to get lives and stop worrying about the private lives of famous footballers.

    • kim says:

      I just love your post!

    • Winnie Mata says:

      LOL! wow, you've just become my fave on here haha

    • suzie says:

      What a person does for their job and how well they do it maybe more mportant to you than the type of person they are and how they behave but it's the other way around for me. He maybe 'an excellent player and a fantastic pro' but he's still a vile and shitty person for cheating on his wife and this makes me lose any respect for him.

      • Rosa says:

        If you judge footballers on the basis of their private lives, then we are 2 completely perspectives on this. On another note, I suspect everyone is living squeaky clean lives with no flaws at all.

        • suzie says:

          Never cheated on my husband and never will so ……yeah I can judge him with a clear conscience.

          • Rory says:

            THIS! lol!

          • Lotte says:

            I have never cheated on my husband either. I have two kids who means more to me than life itself. But what I have learnt from life is that it is a very complicated deal. Giggs did a shitty thing to his family, agreed, but it is not up to me to judge him. I leave that to the ones closest to him. I have seen divorces and cheating up close and i can say only one thing, It's not easy.

    • Jade says:

      I agree with you completely. When it's famous people, others just make an even bigger deal of it. Husbands and wives, boyfirends and girlfriends, and etc cheat on each other.

      I don't understand why people start to hate Ryan Giggs all of a sudden. I love Manchester United and Ryan Giggs. Yes, he is in the wrong for cheating on his wife and he should be ashamed of himself, but this mistake does not make him less of a player than anyone else. He has been one of the best in the world and always will be. This scandal must be very tough on him and of course his wife and family. It's a shame it has happened right before the CL Final. Oh God, please help us!

      Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm only expressing mine. Ryan Giggs made a huge mistake, but nobody is perfect. I am not defending him, just stating the fact. I am shocked and appalled by this, but I feel as though my feelings for him haven't completely changed. I may be still in denial, but I will always be a Ryan Giggs fan. (I really wish this wasn't true!)

      • Rosa says:

        If people hate Giggs based on this story, then they never liked him in the first place. I have absolutely zero interest in Ryan Giggs the man and what he does in his private life. He could shag another 100 women and my opinion of him still wouldn't change. I only care about Ryan Giggs the footballer, and he's a legend of the game.

        If people share their opinions based on the off the field behaviour of footballers, then they will hate most footballers.

        • Jade says:

          Yes, I agree with you again. I mean most athletes all over the world don;t exactly have the best personalities, yet people still like them. I find it such a double standard. I don't care. I like Ryan Giggs and people make mistakes. I don't approve of anyone cheating on their partners, but it happens. It doesn't matter. We're all voicing our opinions as if it's gonna change what's happened so everyone can just cry a river and then build a bridge to get over it.

    • MADRA BEAG says:

      The outrage and interest is over the court case (among most people I know anyway, obviously not this or any gossip site), the associated free speech issues, and the lengths – including spending sums which far exceed most peoples' salaries – these guys will spend to keep their future career/sponsorship prospects and image clean. Personally beyond passing interest I couldn't care too much where Giggs is sticking his privates and if the story had broken without the injunction most of us would have laughed and rolled our eyes, turned the page and forgotten about it by now. The guy is now a household name in places he would never have been heard of a month ago (trust me on this, I'm an expat in Canada) and if you don't find all of this circus interesting to one degree or another as opposed to a reason to lecture people I don't know what to say.

  58. Gladys says:

    Not another "glamour model"! Every time I google some woman mentioned on this site, this seems to be her profession. My fellow Kickettes, apparently there are more open positions out there for this profession than IT manager, Biotech engineer, and physicians assistant combined. You may want to rethink your university majors. (And as for Giggs…what a disappointment.)

    • Wow says:

      So true Gladys. It's so predictable and boring at this point! They're either G models or some local prostitue wanna be yawns!!!

    • Leya_S says:

      LOL I'm a Biotech engineer…at least that's what my degree is in…and I gotta say its been hard getting a job. I've had a few weak moments where I've considered "What if I were to just try really hard to be a WAG?"

    • MadridistaJenn says:

      Hilarious! Unfortunately, my uni didn't offer any programs in "glamour modeling"/parading in bikinis, lingerie or less/taking a beer bath on television (go ahead and Youtube that classiness). My uni studies are suddenly feeling insignificant. Damn you, books!

    • MadridistaJenn says:

      I didn't mean to write a second comment, but….
      According to Wikipedia, Imogen has "a degree in Health studies and Psychology at the University of Worcester."
      Gladys, you're right, even Imogen rethought her degree and realized "glamour model" was a more reputable career.

    • Lotte says:

      lol, Gladys! I work with Human Resources at a government agency, but I guess I'm not using my resources the right way ;) .

    • If my memory serves me correctly, I believe she was sleeping with the notorius man whore aka Jermain Defoe a little while back. I think Defoe needs a pic beside the dongle sign too! LOL! He may need a permanent bench there with his signature on it!

  59. Carvivlie says:

    I really thought that by waiting so long to get married he had gotten out all of those instincts to sleep with whomever he wanted. I remember in the mid 90's (dating myself) when he was linked with a different leggy blonde every week. Of course I feel bad for the family. I thought he had turned into one of the good ones. I guess not.

    • MADRA BEAG says:

      An early mid life crisis maybe …. all the young fellas in the club getting looks at the clubs that he used to get.

  60. Carolina says:

    No, not Giggs!!

  61. Sarah, Madrid says:

    Let me just say! Giggs used to be on my legends list, fav player, he moved to Rooney list, so I think this is the biggest insult for him.

    Disappionted, very very disappionted, yeah he went to the court to prevent media from talking about, oh well too bad, it is late right? it is already out, such a stupid approach.

    I feel for his wife and kids, why would you put your family in this situation and you are a public figure too, a role-model for childern all over.

    • iniesta's sidekick says:

      "Giggs used to be on my legends list, fav player, he moved to Rooney list, so I think this is the biggest insult for him."

      Somehow, I think he gives flying f*ck whether you admired him or not, so him moving to your imaginary Rooney list is hardly an insult for him. Grow up, this man is a gifted footballer, beyond that he is just a man!
      If people are whining 'why did he do that? He had a family and all!' Why??? Because he can!!! That's all. He is deemed an attractive catch by these leeches who give a flying f*ck that there is a family at home that is being damaged only so they can have their five minutes of fame. When opportunity presents itself and it boosts his ego only a few men can resist…unfortunately.

      • ciotog says:

        Of course it's that leeches fault, he is innocent with no responsibility to his wife or his children. And his wife should completely understand, there is nothing to forgive, he is only a man after all. There are no good, faithful and responsible men. Who cares if he is not faithful she should be lucky that he even married her. Men are innocents who are led astray by whores and homewreckers. I totally forgot that for a moment.*

        * Sarcasm

      • Sarah, Madrid says:

        The first part of your comment, let me just say I learned to respect opinions, so I am not gonna get into this kind of arguments, you dont like what I wrote, ok thumb me down lol.

        and really thank you for enlightening, oh he is a man! I didnt know that, ok then he is excused.

        • iniesta's sidekick says:

          Good Lord, have mercy with you two idiots! With no word have I excused his actions. With no words! I said he can! Do you two sages know what that means? That means freedom of action, free will which means responsibility, which means his fault. It takes two to tango, the leeche and the one who tangos with her.
          It would be wonderful if you one day learnt the great gift of reading and thinking. It wioll benefit you greatly, trust me, you intellectualls of the kickette forum.

          • Lilly says:

            You suck so much

            • timotheaD says:

              now, that's an informative post, really well thought through. Regardless of how she expressed it, iniesta's sidekick is right. She didn't say it was only her fault. Why don't people just read instead of blurting out uneducated uninformed ish? Your only response is "she sucks so much" instead of refuting her agruments? I think you are the one who sucks here.