November 11th, 2012
Pitter Patter: Cesc Fabregas & Daniella Semaan Expecting A Daughter
Congrats to all the new and soon-to-be-new papas! Cheers for translation assistance, EC.
It’s a footballer baby boom, Kickettes. They’re everywhere. Luckily, they’re genetically superior and smell like high interest savings accounts and strawberry yoghurt. Thus, we’re all happy.
The latest installment in this ongoing news: according to Cesc himself as reported by El Mundo Deportivo, he and his girlfriend of a year and a half are expecting the first child together (a little girl, the player revealed). Furthermore, Victor Valdes’ lady Yolanda is expected to give birth this week, with David Villa, Gerard Pique and Pedro’s spawn set to arrive sometime around January or February of 2013.
What’s more: Pinto & Messi just had their babies (well their WAGs did), and aside from the aforementioned broods, the wife of Barcelona’s team doctor is also preggers. Yowsers.
While we always presumed the 2011-12 season was a good year for FCB celebration sex, we didn’t realise it was *that* good.
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I am staggered by the comments on this article.
What a bunch of misogynists you are. What is this? I know nothing about her (or him, for that matter) but I haven’t read any abusive, misogynistic, woman-judging/hating comments from her on a site so I already think better of her than any of you.
It’s none of your business to pass judgment on people you don’t even know.
Disgusting.
Hi there – we do not allow profanity in our comments whatsoever, so certain words were omitted by our mods.
I'm not blind, thank you.
A pity you tolerate misogyny and slut-shaming. After all – what's that to the dreaded f-word?
Oh I notice the word b**** IS permitted.
Interesting. Do insults to women not count as profanity anymore?
Aye right… Calm down Daniella Everybody sees right throuh you love!
Congratulations for a new bastard baby girl that will become a professional bitch like her mother
life isn't fair! i just hope carla will find someone who'll love and respect her. she deserves it.
Omg, I don't know whether to be happy or somewhat repulsed by the fact that this means he will be staying with her. I suppose i should just congratulate him, as long as he's happy I guess.
I wont even lie,THE ONE ABOUT DANIELLA’s DIDNT SURPRISE ME AT ALL!!!i sort of saw it comin considerin that this is what women like daniella do!!she knows that she and cesc wouldnt lat 4ever coz lets face it!he’s 25!he would soon get bored of her and dump her!so she secured herself in his glamourous life with a baby!im sure now she thinks she’s goin 2 marry cesc or sth!lol..she’s just a woman who knows how 2 get rich men….
Loving some of the comments here: Oh noes, we must save these innocent footballers from the evil women!!!11
Really, thanks for the laughs
I truly believe that some of the women are with the footballers for the money and fame. They are getting in the new because of the man. I think Danielle Semaan is one of those women. I have tried to google her to see what she has done herself, but I can't find anything besides the facts that she married a wealthy business man, had two children and left him for a young footballer. She asked for £10.000 a month in child support, but got £2500. Both her twitter accounts have the number 4 in them (@4ladyd and @firstLadyD4), I assume because somebody also uses the number 4.
Let’s be fair Daniella is not the only one who seems to fall in this category
Then there are those who just happened to fall for a man who is a footballer. They are seldom in the news because they don’t seek and need the attention; they just like to live a normal life. Some of these women once in a while get involved in charity work, and maybe they use their husbands name here.
None of us really know Daniella and Cesc. But what may seem as a strange relationship to me, may be working out for them.
"None of us really know Daniella and Cesc. But what may seem as a strange relationship to me, may be working out for them. "
Exactly! Like, feel free to believe whatever you want but that's no excuse to spew misogynistic, ageist, slut and body shaming bullshit like others do.
Hear, hear!
Daniella and Cesc are not confirming the pregnancy but dropping hints, so they’ll get the same reaction as Messi and girlfriend and cos like someone said on here they are both fame-seeking whores who are liars without self morals. I still don’t see them lasting when the poor little girl is born cos as I’ve said before their attitudes and background on parenting are very different . On the plus side, Cesc will see the effects of being a fangirl first hand when she turns 15!
I feel so brokenhearted for Carla :S
I obviously need to move to Barcelona to get knocked up by a footballer.
See in situations like Cesc and Geri and even Leo to an extent, I refuse to believe that these babies were unplanned bc if they were, then they're all effing IDIOTS bc then that means that none of them understand all of the numerous available contraceptive methods, just sayin'.
If these are 'accidents' caused by the women, then shame on them bc its just BS to do that to someone.
Anyway, congrats to all the fathers and fathers to be (planned or otherwise, I guess)!
I'm not sure I follow you. In Leo's case it's quite certain it was planned. I mean, he has been going on about wanting to be a father for some time now. I think we can assume that they have been humping with a purpose
. And I think we can say the same about Geri and Shak. Shak isn't getting any younger, and I guess she doesn't want to miss out on kids in her life. If you love someone you want their best, so if Geri wants to be with her, out of love, maybe that is what it takes. And just because a kid is planned it doesn't follow that they are a result of some evil scheme.
Kids, planned or unplanned, very seldom comes at the precise opportune moment, you know. There is nothing wrong with planning to have kids. I was very much planned by my parents
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I was a planned baby. But there have been many cases of ballers and their accidental children. And in this day and age it seems ridiculous to me that "accidents" could happen with such frequency. So I was only saying that, in my eyes, these babies all have to have been planned. I'm not saying that planning children is a bad thing. I'm only saying that with so many contraceptive options, there's hardly such thing as an accident (not impossible, but highly improbable). Jack Wilshere and his gf having baby Archie was an accident, which is something that I find only slightly ridiculous if you know how to be careful.
And I'm also not saying that these women had some sort of evil scheme, but you can't deny that that *has* happened before. Obviously I can't know all the details to these situations, but there have been some, shall we say 'sketchier' conceptions in the past, so I only hope that none of these situations had anything shady going on in that regard.
I know. We can only hope for the best for the kids involved.
Well I do know of several married couples who weren't planning of having more than two children, who ended up with 3 children. When you have a IUD you don't expect to get pregnant.
But then again, a planned pregnancy does not mean that both parents were involved in the planning.
First of all Leo only mentioned being a father when asked. He never brought it up and when he did reply he said he would love to ONE DAY but that now WAS NOT THE TIME. In fact as late as December of last year- shortly before his wag got pregnant he said he was not ready but one day in the future he wants children. So yes, it is very likely even Anto got pregnant to keep her man. Please also notice that when this child was born there has been no mention of his mother being fine or what have you. Only that Leo is happy and NOT the usual comments about how the mother and father are doing fine or mother is fine (after giving birth). All very strange if you ask me. Also you have to question that if Antonella is really such a shy little sweet girl why is she such good friends with the likes of Miss Seaman? Don't be deceived. There is a reason why Antonella has not be photographed with any of Leo's family in well over a year . (minus one picture leaving his bithday dinner but they were just walking out the same door- nothing close like before). So yes, there is good reason to suggest she did this to keep his family from trying to rid of her. Also- you must remember that Leo comes from a very religious family- so if he was trying to have a child he would have got married first since this does not go with his catholic faith. Open your eyes fangirls she bonded with Cesc's wag for a reason.
small correction : I can now recall a couple of pictures of her being around but they are very miserable pictures and still not happy like it was a long time ago. All the rest remains the same and I think her choice is friends says alot about her interest.
OMG I'm glad that someone else sees it ! Leo did say that he would like to be a father BUT he also said that now isn't the time for it. Then shortly after that we here that Anto is pregnant. For sure that was planned, by Anto ! And yeah it is so weird that Leo is NOT mentioning Anto AT ALL . It would be normal if he says 'Thiago and my GF are fine', but he keeps on mentioning Thiago only !
lol thanks for the amusing conspiracy theory
lol! Yes it really IS conspiracy theory galore, isn't it?! I really don't want to be rude and wonder why people have such interests in other peoples lives, but I can't help to think it is unsound to be so preoccupied with what the rich and famous are up to. I was only speaking generally about the subject. What Leo or Anto thinks or feels is, to be honest, not of any importance to me. I wish them a happy, healthy life. That's all.
Right? Like, I can't understand those people who go around claiming to know things and treating them like facts and on top of that spewing misogynistic/slut shaming/etc crap towards most of the wags. As if the poor innocent footballers needed to be saved from those evil scheming women… Plz, give me a break.
Btw, I almost never comment but I enjoy reading your comments, you bring a lot of sense around here
How do you know who knows what and who doesn't? you are just as self righteous as you claim others to be. You like certain wags or players, fine. Some don't and they have a right to comment just as much as those who go crazy and see things through rose colored glasses. It's funny how you mock some as having the time. You sure also have the time to keep following all they say.
K. I'll be honest and say I don't trust people who claim to know footballers and their families and say the also know inside things and go around posting on the internet about it. Yeah, maybe I'm wrong idk.
That said, I'm not here to stop you for thinking what you think and if you believe it… it's totally fine and hell, it's amusing and entertaining and whatnot. What I think it's a problem is when people cross the line between that and calling people, especially women all sorts of names like bitches, whores, scheming sluts, gold-diggers and the list goes on. I'm aware not every woman is a remarkable person and they definitely deserve to be called out on that but in the case of wags, and specifically talking about Daniella, when you really don't have anything other than what you perceive and feel, calling her really vile things just for getting pregnant is just wrong. Like, what if she's pregnant because both she and Cesc thought about it and planned it and wanted it, but regardless her twitter feed if full of despicable comments about her, and her body, and her age and even her unborn baby. Sorry if I get worked up about things like that.
And finally, yeah, i never comment, today I did. Like you say, I had the time.
Thank you! I think I should comment a little less though. For my own health
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Hmmm for someone who claims that they don't care about what celebs do and aren't preoccupied by them sure spends a lot of time on kickette posting comments about them and trying to defend people who don't know or care about their existence….
So if I do not trash people I do not care about them? Very strange way of reasoning. I don't like to believe the worst about people. So, when I don't have any insight into a situation I give people the benefit of a doubt. Does that make me a bad person? Really?
There is also a difference between caring for people and not wishing anything bad to happen to someone. I care for my friends and family. But to say I care about the footballers and wags in here is taking it too far. I wish them all well
I like to discuss a variety of subjects that's why I'm here. Plus I like Kickette very much. And since you asked me, why are you here?
I don't know if you noticed but this is a football gossip site. Obviously you find something interesting to talk about these players if you're here which means you do care and are interested about their personal lives. Someone who doesn't care about anything to do with players personal lives would not be frequenting a gossip site. Millions of fans who only care about what they do on the pitch watch the sport only when their game comes on tv they wouldn't come to a gossip blog and offer an opinion about their personal lives or try to defend players they've never or most likely will never meet whether it be positive or negative. Don't get that twisted missy. If you strictly want to talk about the sport then let me tell you you're not on the right site. So now your rationale for defending strangers and picking a side when you clearly don't know either person in the situation merits that you don't care? Hmmmmm those are some pretty strong emotions i'm sensing through my screen for someone who just really doesn't care.
Nope, if you're going to go around claiming she surely schemed to get pregnant and tie Leo to her forever and stuff at least get your facts right.
+ Leo did say that he wanted to have kids but that it wasn't in his plans in that moment. That moment being the end of February when Anto might have been two or three weeks pregnant so it's very likely that they weren't even aware of her being pregnant by then.
+ There were pictures of them happily going around together, not miserable like you said. The ones from his birthday that you mentioned and also the ones from the trip to Asturias in early March and the ones from the Cirque du Soleil from February (that's traditional for them btw). The fact that there are not pictures of them with Leo's family doesn't say much because there never have been much as in paparazzi shots, if you google enough you can find some private pictures of them in holidays and stuff like that.
+ Leo has never spoken about Antonella and when he's asked he usually gives very short answers so I don't get why you say it's suspicious he doesn't speak about her now. Last time was when Lu Martin asked him about how she was at the Golden Boot ceremony and he smiled and said "Good, thanks!" Early in October he gave an interview and talked a little bit about Anto and her family and how all of them were really happy and excited and also how he was looking forward to have a big family with her.
+ As for the religious thing, hahahaha that's just ridiculous, he might be a catholic but he's not the practicing kind. If he was he wouldn't have lived with Antonella for years without getting married.
+ And last but not least, if you're going to judge her because she's friends with Daniella I hope you're also judging Julia Vigas or even Shakira and putting them all in the same category as plotting gold-digger bitches.
Ok, bye.
1) your first point implies leo wasn't ready for baby at that time
2) no good pics of her and family– not saying no pics of her and him at all..not close to family like use to be
3) shak posed for a few pics but she doesn't claim to be sole mates like seaman does. I really doubt shak is close to either of them or knows too much about what goes on with them
4) julia? who knows- dont know much about her.
5) yes, I think anto planned it. Its my opinion and I am sticking to it.
6) yes leo doesnt' talk about her alot but that is differen than not even saying "yes mother and baby are fine" . Its like she doesnt exist. Of course if he is asked directly he has to reply like you said but he never mentioned it on his own.
7) bit my azz silly fangirl
he didn't say he was looking forward to having a lot of kids with her. He said he wanted as many as came or something like that. Fangirls put words in his mouth .
1) Not really but ok
Actually he said that last year in an interview in Argentina, that he dreamed of having a big family with his girlfriend.
2) There weren't pictures before either, unless you count the ones from the first sightings so I don't get the point here.
3) lol, so this is another asumption that Daniella is the devil and all her friends and family must be horrible monsters. Ohhhh, so innocent Shak stays away from the evil scheming plots from Anto and D, ok?
4) well…
5) lol, stay delusional then
6) Still don't understand how that's different from before the baby. Apparently now that means he doesn't love her and is just stuck with her because of Thiago. Poor innocent Leo, he clearly didn't know sex sometimes results in pregnancy, clearly Antonella tricked him into it.
7) rme
Whatevs, I'm done here. Byeee
I don't know Leo well nor do I know much about the Barca players but just talking in general about celebs and their pairing you never know what their motives are. I question those that are together under the year mark and get pregnant. I also question those who "suddenly" turn up pregnant once a cheating/break up scandal has arised. Surely we can't all be naive and assume that each and every girl out there that got knocked up by a celeb had an honest accident. Get real ladies if so many regular women are willing to get pregnant to keep an avg joe then what makes you think this is not likely to happen when a celeb is involved? I've hung around spots where I'd hear girls talk about if they got down with __ celeb that they'd use a faulty condom or would skip their pill. I've had friends willing to skip their pill just to have their man around much longer and they're nobodies.
Bottom line If you were to use protection regularly then there's no reason for accidents to arise on the fly. Iker and Sarah have been together for like 3 years now as well as several other couples celebs or not I know have made it over 5yrs together childess but somehow they've been able to prevent pregnancy meanwhile others who've been linked together for under a year can't? That just doesn't sit too well with me. Personally I'd want to know my partner longer than a year before we start planning a family but that's just me I guess not everyone wants to have that.
But who should we go after, I’m the type of woman who doesn’t do other women’s men, and according to my list we’re running out of options.
http://www.totalbarca.com/2012/offside/totalbarca…
On a positive note, the fact that I’m single with two children and living in another country is the least of my problems when it comes to Barca players.
Congrats to all!! On a side note–was Cesc so over the moon with the news, that he temporarily went color-blind?? Neon pink shirt and bright red shorts isn't doing him any favors!
Health for the baby, brains for Cesc.
Despite all of what we may think or say, it IS his life. I hope the baby will be healthy.
I feel that for that lil' girl. Her mother is a gold digger and her father a cheater. What values will she be raised with?
I guess the new tweet from her drinking mojitos sans alcohol confirms it.
Ohhh Cesc, WHAT WHERE U THINKING???? Oh, right, u weren't…….
I'm more interested in what they're going to name the girl…I can't say I'm surprised, but this is probably one of my least favourite pairings.
i expected this…and i just want to know what he will do when he realize how stupid he was!!
oh I didn't notice that at all. Move along then
Speaking of pregnant . Anders Lindegaard's girlfriend Missé is also pregnant. I think it's kinda old news, but Kickette didn't mention it:-)
They did mention it, but I think it was buried in one of the Lazy Links posts.
Not exactly, Barcelona-relatad, but Pepe Reina's having a fourth baby as well!
On the non-Barca but Spain side, Pepe Reina';s wife is pregnant with No. 4 and Jose Enrique's partner is pregnant as well via them on Being: Liverpool
Also Congrats, He seems happy
A fourth!
Omg, we're gonna be over run with little Reina's. How cute!
Ooh yay, I hope one of his kids gets together with one of Villa's kids!
He's a 25 year old idiot but what's her excuse? She is 38 with two kids already and she lets herself get knocked up by a 25 year old boyfriend? She totally planned this and now has secured a well-off future for herself. I don't know if I should admire or loathe her self preservation instincts.
it just may be pretty dumb! I'm not turning pro that will tell me, but he is too dumb! Donkey, Donkey, Donkey ………………… !!
Best wishes for the baby-and that comes with health!
I think they re not created eachother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh God!!! Now he's stuck with her forever!!!! What can I say? Again, "I know somebody paying child support for one of his kids
His baby mamma's car and crib is bigger than his
You will see him on TV any given Sunday
Win the Superbowl and drive off in a Hyundai
She was suppose to buy you shorty TYCO with your money
She went to the doctor got lypo with your money
She walking around looking like Michael with your money
Should of got that insured got GEICO for your money
If you ant no punk holla we want prenup
WE WANT PRENUP! Yeah
It's something that you need to have
'Cause when she leave yo ass she gone leave with half"
Every single time I look at her picture…
18 years, 18 years
She got one of yo' kids, got you for 18 years
Honest to god, I immediately thought of this song before I even finished reading the headline.
Oh, well
I have to download that song!
"And on the 18th birthday he found out it wasn't his….."
Forgot that oh so relevant part.
and Carla will be vindicated…
if she lives in london most of the time i think she is going to be worried worse she is gonna have a baby with him i wish them the best of luck worse congratulations
OH MY GOD DO NOT EVEN SUGGEST THAT WITH YOANN.
I can't deal with that possibility, stop!
That wasn't even supposed to go here, where did that other comment go…..?
Congratulations on the (soon-to-be) daughter! I'll leave it at that.
Another confirmation that guys don't always think with their brains. I can only hope that Gourcuff won't fell in the same trap with that Karine woman like Fabregas did! Because fellows, it's not love, get real!
OH MY GOD DO NOT EVEN SUGGEST THAT WITH YOANN.
I can't deal with that possibility, stop!
(I ended up somehow replying with this sto a different comment lol so now I'll repeat it)
No offence but whats with all these young footballers going to older women! All I can say for them is gold sigger well not all but most!!
Well ShakiraI don't think so. She's successful in her own right. I think she was getting older and wanted a baby. I hope it works out for her and Pique. But Daniella strikes me as one…
Def i Love Shakira!
I am so not shocked. I think I even predicted this.
Always happens that people leave long term, childless relationships and get their new partner pregnant in the first year or so. I suppose, given her age, they would have to do this now or not at all. Now she's got two sugar daddies.
W****S!
I hate you Cesc! I thought you will wait for me! Now I know you were never faithful! FFFFFFFUUUUUU!
But anyhow, I can move on! I have my Aaron now so I really don't care! *sobs*
lol Aaron Ramsey is a much better catch! lol at least I think so! Hang in there
Umm I am going to feel the same exact way you are when Sergio eventually has a baby…
So let me get this straight.
-Ha can’t tie a tie.
-He doesn’t know how to button a jacket the right way.
-She lives in London because of her kids from a previous relationship.
-They have been together* for about a year when she got pregnant.
-Cesc, if the rumors are true, cheated in his former girlfriend with her.
-She is getting ”fat” in London, when Bar Refaeli, is in Barcelona.
Hmm, she must give him something Carla didn’t, and I don’t know what the heck it is.
But maybe I understand her insecurity a little better now, and yes I mean insecurity, otherwise why post that comment on Twitter.
*Together as in apparently not really living together. I know it’s not the only way to have a family, but trust me; it’s the best way, if the parents love and respect each other of course.
What was the tweet?
I don't follow her because… well, I have no interest in her day to day life or posting pics at matches with the other players girlfriends.
Kickette (and Google) is your friend
http://www.kickette.com/bar-refaeli-vs-barcelona-…
Congratulations! To all of them.The Barca boys knows how to enjoy life, it seems. I guess Cesc didn't want to miss out on walking the stroller or drinking daddy-latte's with the other lads. I just had a vision of Villa with yet a newborn in his arms…OMG the hotness!
The only thing missing now is a baby Xavi. How cute would a mini Xavi be?! I mean, he practically is a mini Xavi himself. And I wonder how much of a handful a baby Puyi would be?
haa! He is a cutie pie himself. they're like so compact sized… not necessarily in a negative way. I mean it a cute-sense.
Xavi Baby
Funny though, Pedro spoke about so many of them having children now, because they were getting older, and more responsible (or something like that) and Xavi and Puyol doesn’t have any children
Slow starters, maybe? It is kind of curious that the two "eldermen" doesn't seem to be in any hurry to form a family. But, it takes two, doesn't it? Maybe the right girl hasn't come along yet.
Maybe, but I think both of them have a girlfriend. I know the Barcelona webpage referred to Xavis partner when he received his Prince of Asturias award, and Puyol is rumored to be dating Adriana Torrebejano. Of course dating someone does not mean you have to get them pregnant before you have been living together for a while, it’s ok to wait. I’m such a little Barca stalker
lol, I trust you've got them covered then
. Let me know how it progresses. Having a partner is a start at least.
Curious that the "eldermen" of La Roja don't have kids.Would love to see a baby Xavi, Puyi and Iker.
Well, babies don't just pop out of thin air, do they?
OMG! WHAT A SHOCKER!!! Thats one way to get your a green card i suppose Daniella!
Cue that Kanye West song now. I think these two deserve each other. So good luck to them.
True, funny and interesting reading abc.es/20121110/estilo-gente/abci-daniella-semaan-fabregas-201211091951.html#formcomentarios … imgbox.com/acuX1SaZ This is why i WILL always respect women like Carla and see right through interloping opportuniste like Daniella!! P.s I like the self proclaimed model" part !!
What? Really. Congrats CESC!… Cue Gold Digger by Kanye West ft. Jamie Foxx. Thaaank you.
Congrats to Cesc, but I can't help but feel that it should be Carla who should have his baby. Ehh…I hope she finds someone who actually deserves her.
oh my God so many babies!!!
congrats to them all. I hope they all are happy and healthy lil ones.
I was just wondering when he was going to knock her up.
There must be something in the water in Barca
I'm going to be a bit of a bitch and say this was always going to happen quick with Daneilla nearing 40, be interesting to see how they work this with Daniella having to stay in London over her shared custody of her 2 children while Cesc is in Barcelona.
I was thinking that Laura! Her other children are going through enough without being separated from their mother and little sister , so cue drama there ! I also think that Daniella’s and Cesc parenting differs from each other , she doesn’t mind leaving her kids with a nanny for long periods of time, whilst he’s quite a from a close family. I think these 2 should sort out their own lives before bringing another child into the situation. Babies don’t make relationships stronger, if anything they test them.
Wow, I wonder what's in the Barcelona water? I'm excited to see a baby boy Villa. Will he be dressing badly like Daddy
? Since his wife does a great job of dressing the girls.
Although I don't know what to make or think of the Cesc daddy to be situation…Trying to follow Pique (date older woman, have a kid), peer pressure with all the fathers to be at BCN, or something else…Will try to refrain from being catty..and just say,
Congrats to all the fathers and fathers to be!
Come to think of it, Pique went to England, Cesc went to England (or maybe at same time or maybe I have this reversed). Pique returned to BCN, Cesc returned to BCN. Pique starts dating an older woman, Cesc starts dating an older woman. Pique is going to be a father, Cesc going to be a father?
So true although I think Cesc went to Arsenal first and Pique actually followed him.Until the pregnancy's I was starting to think Daniella and Shakira were really a cover up for a secret Piqregas romance
Same story as shakira, he was in a relationship before for a very long time, they broke up (sad me, bc i adored her) now hes with a new one for a short(er) time and theyr pregnant. But non the less, felicidades i guess …
Remember Shakira is 35 years old,she can't date Pique for 11 years like she did with her ex.
Say what now? Holy cow… I don't even know what to say… congrats??…
I know right… I just had an “Oh my gosh! What?!” moment… Ah well, as previously said, if they’re happy then they’re happy
I know right? I had a bit of an "Oh my gosh, say what?!" moment… I honestly didn't think they would last (I know that sounds horrible, but I quite liked his ex-girl)… Ah well, baby Fabregas will be a cutie nonetheless!