March 5th, 2008

The Sizzle Query: Bawling Ballers

Last night, the lush Cesc Fabregas scored a great goal in Arsenal’s winning Champions League game against AC Milan.  But is this news?

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Well, short of him growing a handlebar moustache and/or losing all his money, we’re extremely interested in anything sexy Cesc does, so we vote yes.  But his killer skill set aside, what really made the magic happen for us was seeing Cesc get a little emotional after the goal. 

Can anyone explain why the sight of a baller crying on the pitch is sizzle rather than sad?  Please, be aware: we’re not advocating that men immediately get in touch with their Oprah side and invest in numerous boxes of man-sized tissues because God knows that would annoy us beyond repair.  We like our men manly (ish) and emotionally in control, please and thank you.

Do you share our love of the footballing tearful and thighful, or are you embarrassed for them, their fans and their family when they lose it in a match?

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78 Responses to “The Sizzle Query: Bawling Ballers”

  1. painkiller says:

    Excellent site

  2. Bella says:

    CANNOT BELIEVE THAT I FORGOT THE BOYS!!!!!!!!!!  For a second anyway.

    Tears: with the least clothes and most cuddling possible, I agree with those who are moved by the passion (naked passion but we do what we can with what we get)

    Ingerlund: I wasn’t one with the not players not caring bit, they weren’t fit (it was hot there for the teams that won too) and they couldn’t get it up too often, but I don’t think it was for lack of trying. Who goes to the World Cup, the pinnacle of their life’s work, and doesn’t give it everything (they think) they’ve got? Chelsea are my team’s worst enemy, but it hurt even my heart to see Lampard’s shots go wide time after time. Hargraeves did show his usual passion along with Becks (as ever), Rooney (a bit too much passion or pressure whichever), as well as others on and off. We’ve had two year’s analysis re what’s wrong with the team—its probably a combo of a lot of those things. Hopefully Capello can make a difference.

    But the crying? Broke my heart…will never forget Becks limping to each player to give a hug or hold a shoulder. Off for my hankies…

  3. Bella says:

    Come on. Stay positive. We’ll all keep swapping photos of our (inaccessible <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/smile.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="smile" style="border:0;" /> )  loved ones, and telling each other things we wouldn’t tell our gynecologists, as long as Kickette can keep unsticking her tongue from the floor in the morning long enough to keep the site going. Which of course makes it the most supportive-toward-other-commenter sites I’ve ever seen—even with the occasional feather ruffle.(I mean really who else knows this much about each of us!?)

  4. Emily says:

    My take: a little light crying when happy—I think it’s okay.  This shows that they’re comfortable with their emotions and that they’re just so chuffed to have won.  It shows passion and dedication and genuine pride.

    When the crying is because of a loss, that to me is where it gets a bit subjective. 
    —If the team lost in a blow-out, crying pisses me off.  It says to me that the players still have enough gas left in their tanks to have tried harder to stay in the match. 
    —If it was a close match in which both teams were giving it their all and players from the losing team lost in a heartbreaking situation (i.e. shootout), I can understand some tears.  Be it from disappointment or exhaustion or both, tears running down the cheeks breaks my heart.  (As a side note, though I did feel like the England 2006 World Cup team played… like crap, essentially, considering the calibre of the individual players on the team, I too cried when they lost to Portugal.  In my defence, it was a very trying day for me.  I was having to move back to Canada that day, and leaving England was the hardest thing I’ve ever had to do, so I was very emotional that day.  I was also pissed off that I had to watch the match on a tv in Heathrow during a 6 HOUR LONG LAYOVER—horrid beyond words—so the tears of the English players and fans were excusable to me during that disgustingly long and taxing day).  But I digress…

    Okay, sorry, back to the topic at hand!  When players reach the sobbing/wailing/gnashing of teeth stage, I cringe.  Whether the person crying is male or female, I just think that sorrow to that degree should be saved for somewhere private.  I can’t help wondering if players who react to such extremes are trying to show to the fans that they are passionate…  Instead, they look like toddlers throwing temper tantrums…

  5. heatj says:

    i really don’t care..

    hey, c’mon give him a chance.. so what if he cries he is still a human being. we all have feelings.. gosh!! what is the matter with y’all..
    besides he’s crying cuz he scored a goal for his team and knowing that they have a chance of going to the quater-finals… man..!!  <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/hmm.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="hmmm" style="border:0;" />

  6. Tracy says:

    Thanks for the link rania, oh how i adore his YUMMY accent.By the way, I feel so much better now that I know I am not alone when it comes to the flamnini perving, Cesc’s lil bird.

  7. c9 says:

    As always TFO, I agree. Come on girls, let’s go ahead and have a night out on the town or something <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/cheese.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="cheese" style="border:0;" />  All this bickering makes me want to have a pint down at some pub <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/tongue_rolleye.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="tongue rolleye" style="border:0;" />

  8. brandy says:

    Man, now I wish I would have signed up for that Photoshop class instead of the Quark one at my last job! I could see it now: JT under a rainbow with a cute rolly-polly puppy in one arm and his twins in the other!

  9. Charlotte x says:

    I Think It Would Be Sweet If A Good Looking Footballer Cried, But Not Cesc.. He Just Doesnt Float My Boat! smile

  10. Elise says:

    c9- you pick the pub and I’m there! LOL All this *is* over as far as I’m concerned.  I haven’t laughed so hard in a while as I did when I was typing the bit about the dog and rainbow, and it was at my own complete silliness, because I was thinking ‘hey maybe she really does know me, cause I *would* like to see that!‘ …maybe with Photoshop…LOL Anyway, I had hoped that that would make everyone laugh and be done with it.  I have no hard feelings. The only thing that troubles me now is how long I’ve spent looking at those damn Ronaldo pictures! Evil, I say, evil!
    <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/lol.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="LOL" style="border:0;" />

  11. Sarah x says:

    I Think Its Quite Sweet When They Cry Over Important Things Like The Wold Cup x
    It Shows How Much They Cared
    But After Scoring A Goal, Thats A Bit OTT

  12. Cesc's lil bird says:

    Omw thank goodness! I thought I was the only one who was perving on Mathieu Flamini… As much as i love Cesc, the midfield maestro, I didn’t think the crying was sexy. It looked like he was more in pain than happy. If he was smiling while doing it, it would be good. I’m the happy-smiley kinda person. Crying out of loss in a big match is okay.

  13. rania says:

    correction : here is your fantasy**

  14. rania says:

    here is your fantasies of flamini confirmed. hehe.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcF0dU7GXeI

  15. The Fourth Official says:

    This is getting boring.

  16. RedGirl says:

    Girls, please, can we just be a ‘happy family’? In the same way that you can find different opinions, you can find many ways of making a joke… Some of us use irony, sarcasm or things like that (which I can assure you has brought me problems in the past <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/tongue_laugh.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="tongue laugh" style="border:0;" /> ). The problem is that when we read the comments, we don’t get the meaning or the intention of the poster…

    Elise, I understand that some jokes can really hurt you. Maybe you should try to do the same that I do: find the funny side on every comment and see it from the perspective of the poster. Sometimes when I first read something I get p*ssed but then I understand what they’re trying to say and I have a laugh. I hope that you’re ok now and congrats for the job offer…

  17. Elise says:

    Right, you got me- I read it.  <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/grin.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="grin" style="border:0;" />  And actually I *wouldn’t* mind seeing John Terry standing under a rainbow…holding a puppy…maybe a nice little golden retriever….

  18. brandy says:

    Wow Elise. Grow Up. If you really think I was being specifically disrespectful to YOU and other Frank/John Lovers you are seriously delusional. You don’t see me crying when people Cristiano bash. Because I am normal. It happens all the time and I laugh at it because it is funny and true, but it doesn’t stop my love of him. You should try it sometimes. Now you have offended me, whereas before I took it as a misunderstanding. If you want to read posts that are all smiling babies and rainbows and cute puppies maybe you should go look somewhere else because last time I checked we playfully bag on WAGS and tease each other about our choice in hot ballers here! Whew. Good thing you are not reading this. I’ll still read yours though, because I am not that petty or childish. Whatevs…

  19. Shelby says:

    << BTW, does anyone know why Ferdinand was giving Nani an earful after the match last night?>>

    Fourth Official, I was wondering the same thing!

    Does anyone know why?

  20. The Fourth Official says:

    c9, I just took a look and it was breathtaking.  I left an appreciative post there.  Thank you, girls, for all your hard work.

  21. c9 says:

    I think that we all need to take a deep breath…….and then jump on over back to the TTO thread and see the posts MrsXabi and I did for “Thursday Buttocks” day!

    Go see all that wonderfull @$$ we posted and then jump back on tomorrow for “Fitness Fridays”  <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/wink.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="wink" style="border:0;" />

  22. Nic says:

    Well ladies (and potential gents on here), I’m not about to apologize for this post:

    Elise—you are absolutely 100% correct. This is a fun, light-hearted forum where we should all be able to come for a little pick-me-up. No one should make personal attacks, and despite personal feelings for or against certain players, we should all be kind enough and smart enough to realize we have a common bond in our affection and obsession with football and footballers IN GENERAL.
    I hope whatever is troubling you doesn’t last long—but in the meantime, we should all be using Kickette as the place to feel better when certain things in our lives are not going so well.
    I don’t believe a single one of us expects everyone on here to agree with our choices 100%, and nor should we have to—the diversity in our feelings/opinions is part of why this is ‘the beautiful game.‘
    So, in future, those who can’t respect others’ choices or feelings, or who want to bash players and their supporters should really go elsewhere. Judging by all the support I see above for Elise, I’m not the only one who thinks so.

  23. freddiegirl says:

    Tracy, even as an Arsenal fan I admit I don’t see Flamini in quite the same way as you do…;)  But…..hey, I think it’s great that you do; he deserves a little love…:D   He’s been absolutely massive for us in the midfield and IMO completely underrated.  I read on Arsenal.com today that he’s signing a new contract with us and that makes me happy..<img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/smile.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="smile" style="border:0;" />

  24. Tracy says:

    Since this is an Arsenal thread, anyone feel any lurve for Matty Flamini? I know its a bit off topic, but humour me for a while. He isn’t the conventional good-looking type that’s for sure, but everytime I see him, i just wanna jump his bones!!! The way he swaggers when he walks onto the pitch, the way he plays with such redblooded passion, imagine the things he does behind closed doors!!! Preferably with me that is…
    <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/tongue_wink.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="tongue wink" style="border:0;" />
    * I need a cold shower…

  25. Elise says:

    c9- Holy freaking….I just went over to check out the bums and I am in awe of your hard, hard work!  The ‘old guy’ shot and the wet one (gulp) are particularly nice.  I’m no Ronaldo fan, but I don’t think I can deny that that may just be the nicest ass ever!  I reserve the right to change my mind about that, of course, should a nicer bum come along, but right now….I’ve got to go have another look. 

    And Nic- I think I might love you. smile

  26. Trainee Wag says:

    well.. i cant blame him.. if anyone notice, fabregas hasnt scored a single goal ever scince his injury before christmas. And scoring in such a big game like that is just unbeleiveable. And yes, the video was pretty hilarious x)

  27. Elise says:

    You know what, brandy?  I really shouldn’t have posted that last message.  I am really am sorry for *that*.  I just don’t get you and you don’t get me.  Let’s just agree to disagree, okay?  Peace?

  28. klyn312 says:

    SAPPY ALERT..

    you ladies are tuely great, I’m so sick of the abuse on the other forums.. We can all(for the most part, most of the time) agree to disagree without taking personal jabs.

    okay now back to the smack talkin…

    <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/tongue_rolleye.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="tongue rolleye" style="border:0;" />

  29. brandy says:

    Jeez Elise, don’t feel the need to apologize to me or anything… as long as you’re feeling better I guess that is all that counts…

  30. MrsXabiAlonso says:

    Elise I hope your feeling better today <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/kiss.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="kiss" style="border:0;" />

    I understand what you are syaing and it’s really nice to see you have so much passion for these men.  But you have to remember that our different opinions are what make’s us who we are, and what makes kickette discussions so good.  People may say things about Lamps and JT that you disagree with but I don’t think they mean it to hurt you or anyone else.

    Here’s a little pick me up for you…..
    http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/04/25/pt_2…
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/magazinemonitor/lampar…

    Try not to get too involved with comments on here, it’s all said in jist. And even with your insane amount of love for the boys we still love ya <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/smile.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="smile" style="border:0;" />

  31. Elise says:

    I don’t feel that need, brandy.  I still believe everything that I said about your posts. I don’t think most are meant in a humourous way and I still think you’re mostly rude and disrespectful…not to the players- That’s never what I meant, but to me and everyone else who likes those particular players.  That’s the point I was making.  It doesn’t matter to me whether or not you like player A or player B but how nasty you are about it when you know other people *do*.  The people who posted to me just kind of said ‘yeah, it happens’ and suggested better ways to deal with it, so that’s what I’m doing.  I plan from now on to just skip right over your posts and I hope you’ll do the same with mine.  I was having plenty of fun here before you started posting and I plan to continue.  So please just leave me alone.  Please.

  32. brandy says:

    PS: I want to say thank you to all my Kickette friends who defended me!

  33. Elise says:

    I won’t take too much more time away from the original topic, but I’d like to say that I appreciate that so many of you took the time to be concerned about me and to say something out of kindness.  It really *does* still exist!  And you never know when just a kind word can make all the difference.  I guess there are different ideas about what constitutes humour, and I can live with that.  I’ll just start using the scroll button more liberally.  TFO, as always, your words of wisdom will be taken to heart.  Mrs.Xabi, the lovely pic you posted did indeed make me smile.  It’s a lovely John/Frank happy moment.  How did you know it’s one of my favourites? smile  And it just so happens, kaya, that I am indeed breaking out that bottle of champagne, but it’s in celebration.  I’ve just been offered a job that I wanted desperately (in publishing) and everything looks brighter today!  Thanks again guys.

  34. Nic says:

    In a case such as this, I like the tears. Its masculine and appreciated. It makes me feel like Fabregas is really greatful for their place. Now, when ballers like Cristiano cry, I want to slap him senseless. When he does it for some reason, it just comes off as a whiney little baby/b!tch who didn’t get their way.

  35. BmwM5 says:

    Carly I just watched that clip and I find that whole video funny. He looked like at child that didn’t get a toy he wanted and decided to throw a tantrum.

  36. carly says:

    It really depends. some crying is pathetic but in some occasions perfectly understandable. I cry too…

    But what’s not sizzling at all is Cassano crying, simply ridiculous (and funny)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZVeaoe31PM

  37. Tera says:

    it’s just the quarter finals after all. chill, fab.

    anyway i don’t have anything against footballers who get too emotional. unless it’s scholes trying to punch alonso or something.

  38. Robin says:

    I couldn’t agree more Fourth – I love it when they cry when they win – it’s like the joy just flows out of them. But if they cry when they lose? They just look like infants and spoiled children. Lose with grace and dignity.

  39. freddiegirl says:

    Elise, the others are right….I’ve been subjected to tons of abuse on other football forums for who I support…I’ve even dealt with minor abuse here for being an Arsenal supporter, but just realize that the people here aren’t really being disrespectful if they don’t like a player/team you do..I think it’s just a general thing.  At the end of the day people are entitled to thier opinions although like yourself I try to be tactful with mine.  When it really comes down to it I don’t care if any of the other peeps here don’t like Arsenal or they don’t think my beloved Freddie Ljungberg is the hottest thing since sliced bread; I do and that’s all that matters.  You love John Terry? That’s cool, don’t let anyone else make you feel bad for it.  Just remember also that sometimes the written word here can come off a lot harsher than intended because you can’t hear any verbal inflections or see any visual cues.  I think most comments are meant in good humor….<img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/smile.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="smile" style="border:0;" /><img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/smile.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="smile" style="border:0;" />

    BTW, someone else mentioned that others are probably just as passionate as you are about their team/players but just with opposing viewpoints.  Personally, I don’t like Terry or Lamps or Chelsea…and that’s ok…I wouldn’t expect you to love the Professor or Cesc, or Eboue…who reallly does whinge a lot..<img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/wink.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="wink" style="border:0;" /> 

    On a slightly different subject…despite my Chelsea dislike I miss Jose Mourinho…he was Chelsea’s best signing ever!

  40. tygga says:

    why would cesc lose his money? Can someone please answer that. But I think that it is fine that men cry but not when they go overboard then they become to much mummies boys…

  41. rania says:

    ohhhh. sexy. 

    i was crying too last night!! i love these boys.

  42. Cherry says:

    It depends on when and where. Sometimes I think it’s wonderful. Othertimes I think, what a poof. Winning yeah. Losing. Man up.

  43. lose that girl says:

    I don’t mind if they cry when they lose. Real men don’t hold back their emotions.

    If they cry when they lose, it’s obvious that the loss is a huge deal for them.

    Hey, they can always cry on my shoulder!

    wink

  44. The Fourth Official says:

    I cried along with Robbie Keane at the end of the Carling Cup, and I’m hardly a Spurs supporter.  But his genuine emotion really moved me.  Plus, I’ve been following his career since he was a young lad with the Irish team and I know how hard he has worked over the years. 

    That being said, I cringe if I see footballers crying when they lose.  Only winners can weep and get away with it.  Losers must shoulder their loss manfully and with dignity, and be gracious in defeat.  You didn’t see the Spartans crying at the end of 300, did you?  <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/smile.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="smile" style="border:0;" />

    But it will be a cold day in hell before I ever shed happy tears for an Arsenal victory.

  45. Betty says:

    It makes me uncomfortable. Big boys don’t cry!!

  46. freddiegirl says:

    Sorry to go off topic…crying ballers….um….I’m not a big fan of crying in my men at all…but for Cesc in this case I think it’s ok. 

    Someone else mentioned wanting to make the pain go away…yes, in the CL final against Barca I did want to hug Freddie……we were robbed in that final…Robbed!!

    Nope, I’m not bitter…..:L:L:L

  47. kaya says:

    Elise,
    I’m sorry you haven’t had a great day… I can definitely relate. Maybe Kickette’s perpetual advice of a nice bubble bath with a bottle of champagne is in order.
    … Keep in mind there are people that are just as passionate as you but with the opposite perspective. There’s really nothing you can do about it, and they’re entitled to their opinions and sense of humor…. which I think is the point of this website.
    And yes it’s true: the worst criticisms you’ll read in kickette would be laughed off most football forums smile

  48. The Fourth Official says:

    I’m really sorry you’re upset, Elise.  And that you had a bad day.

    I guess my perspective is that of someone who has followed the game for a long time, and seen many players come and go from my team.  I’ve learned not to become too attached or too personal (except maybe when it comes to Becks leaving Man United!), because players retire, are sold, are injured, fall from grace, lose form.  My main focus and passion always comes back to the team. 

    When it comes to individual player “admiration”, I enjoy the hottie/nottie discussions and all the frivolities of Kickette as much as anyone (and I have some interesting crushes smile) but to tell you the truth, if my team was made up of a starting XI that all looked like Carlos Tevez, I would still cheer for them, because it’s the end product – the team’s progress, their victories/losses/trophies – that mean the most to me. 

    I hang out on some football forums where the abuse reaches stratospheric levels, and I’ve been called some pretty awful things, simply because of who I support, and it took some getting used to.  Manc c*nt is probably one of the nicer terms thrown at me.  Kickette is definitely the kindest atmosphere of any football forum on the web, I have to say.  We Canadians rib each other about our hockey teams, but I have never experienced anything like the hatred on English football forums (no offense to any of the English gals here, but you all know what I’m talking about – sick sh*t like songs about Eduardo’s injury and the Hillsborough disaster, just as examples).

    It’s just something you have to get used to if you are interested in football.  I wish people were kinder but they are not.  There is always going to be someone who not only dislikes your team and your players, but dislikes you because you support them – even if they know absolutely nothing about you. (And I don’t mean Brandy when I say that, because I don’t think she was being personal in her remarks – I’m talking about football supporters on the web in general.)

    Defending or supporting a player who is unpopular at a given moment for whatever reason takes a lot of courage, and I commend you for that.  And sometimes, a favourite player is just not defensible (I certainly learned that in the wake of the Roy Keane/Alfie Haland tackle – which was totally shameful, no matter how much I adored Keano.)  That’s just something else one has to accept as part of the game.  And you just hope for better days.

  49. c9 says:

    Wow Elise, that was a mouthful. I hope everything is okay   smile

    Don’t worry points like these will be made and if it’s not you then who? Just remember we all enjoy kickette, for everything that is football and what it offers (i.e.- Cristiano, Iker, Gingers, etc.)  wink

  50. brandy says:

    Um, I’m sorry, you cried over lack of respect shown towards people that you have never even met, let alone have a deep and profound relationship with? Wow.

    I have to say though they might be able to earn my respect once they start taking their profession, their wives/families and behaviour seriously, and actually deserve the adulation they receive. Until then, Piss Terry and Cheating Lamps just don’t have my respect. Sorry, but I deal in reality, not delusion.

    And nothing I say here is meant to hurt anyone’s feelings. I thought we were all “far enough away” from our objects of obsession not to be brought to tears, which wasn’t my intention, at all. Bad thing about typing is you can’t hear the tone – and everything is meant to be funny.

  51. Elise says:

    TFO, I’m one of those people that you can hurt much more deeply with an unkind word than with an actual ass-kicking.  I haven’t had the best of days, and I logged on hoping for some laughs and instead ended up in tears.  There is someone on here who seems to just live to say the nastiest things she can about John and Frank at every available opportunity.  I immediately began typing this big thing about ‘why can’t people just be nicer, etc.‘ but deleted it all, deciding it was too pathetic to care that much even if I really do.  I guess I’m just old-fashioned but when did respect for other people’s feeling become so wrong?  (I mean it should be obvious to anyone who reads this page, that there are lots of people who love one or the other (or both) of these players- some even using their names as their screen names.)  I don’t say nasty, vitriolic things about the players I don’t personally like, and I guess I just expect everyone else to play nice, too.  I guess I’m just being foolish though and this person is probably laughing her ass off. Way it goes, I guess. You, on the other hand, manage to say what you think without being insulting and I can respect you for that even when we disagree.  You’re a class act, my friend, and I always look forward to your posts.   

    About the World Cup, I get what you’re saying.  I do.  I probably even posted on here about their lack of total commitment. And the players knew it too.  But I can think that maybe that’s part of what the tears were for- not just losing, but knowing you didn’t put everything you had in it, that you could you have done more, been better, cared just a little bit more and who knows what would have happened.  If you’ve ever been in a situation like that, then you know those tears you cry then are sometimes even more heartrending because not only do you know what you’ve lost, but you know you’re the one that’s to blame. It’s just you, your tears, and a big pile of ‘what ifs’. And I know that my boys are just as much to blame as anyone else, but we defend what we love, right?  And some of us *do* love them.  We’d crawl across broken glass to get to them.  We’d run onto the pitch to defend them from harm with our own bodies if we could.  We’d take on any smarmy hack newspaper journalist in the mother of all pub fights.  We’d…well, we’d do just about anything because we LOVE them. And it’s not that I don’t see their weaknesses, both personally and professionally.  I just love them anyway. I suppose it comes across as delusional idolatry sometimes, since I do tend to be OTT when it comes to these two, but that’s just my nature.  When I’m passionate about something, I go all the way with it!  It’s out there before I can even think about it.  I have tried to tone it down over the last week or so, reminding myself that not everyone feels the way I do.  But I don’t expect to be successful with that all the time, and part of me feels like I shouldn’t have to.  I’m not insulting anyone after all.  I’m just sharing the love!!  All you need is love…
    Right?  wink

  52. The Fourth Official says:

    Don’t be sad, Elise.  Capello will turn things around – I’ve very hopeful.  The team is already showing small signs of an improving attitude.  It’s just that someone has to take responsibility for the fact that the nation that “invented” football, and boasted of the “Golden Generation” of footballers, had an ass-whooping at the World Cup and at Euro 2008 qualifying.  It’s humiliating.  I know you love Frank and John, but everybody has to take responsibility for that humiliation.  I’m not being patronizing (I hope) when I say that being a discerning football supporter means seeing the weaknesses as well as the strengths in our favourite players.

  53. brandy says:

    I’m with you on the England Team crying TFO. You’re not allowed to cry if you were dancing on strip podium the night before or peeing on the dance floor. Sorry. No sympathy for you from me.

  54. Elise says:

    <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/downer.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="downer" style="border:0;" />

  55. carly says:

    Who can blame Cristiano for crying?

    For God’s sake, Portugal was in the Euro finals for the first time in history and they lost to GREECE! He was only 19 then. I cried too!!

  56. The Fourth Official says:

    Elise, with affection and respect, (and there is no bigger England supporter than I) I would have more sympathy for the Three Lions if they had actually shown up for the World Cup instead of phoning in their performances from poolside at the hotel, or from the golf course.  Owen Hargreaves is one of the few players who demonstrated any passion and pride playing for England at World Cup 2006.  Tears of sadness and frustration don’t impress me if you haven’t played your balls off for every minute of every match.  That clearly was not the case that summer.

  57. Elise says:

    I just love it when tough guys cry, especially hot tough footballers.  If they’re happy, I’m crying tears of joy for them; if they’re sad, I want desperately to comfort them.  I love it when the game is obviously everything to them, they’ve put in everything they have, they want it so badly, and when they lose, they just can’t keep the emotion in.  Good stuff.  Here’s one of my favourite crying ‘scenes’ from World Cup 2006:

    http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj287/elisesfa…

    http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj287/elisesfa…

    http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj287/elisesfa…

  58. The Fourth Official says:

    Brandy, spot on.  Take a look at Cristiano’s ankles – the amount of strapping and taping he has to do before a match is insane.  We are very lucky that he has not had a serious injury.  His agility (and yes, his ability to hit the turf when he needs to) has saved him over and over.

  59. brandy says:

    I would say this of any player, not just of Cristiano, although I do love him more than the rest, but, I’m sorry, strikers do have a right to bitch. They are running most of the time top speed and have vicious defenders tackling them at their knees… THEIR KNEES people. They are painful injuries and take forever to heal, and can ruin a career as we have seen so many times in the past. Also most defenders admit to roughing them up and going at them on purpose. When you are as reliable a scorer as is Cristiano, you usually have an entire defense going for your ankles and knees, and an unfair tackle does take away their chance to score, ie THEIR MEAL TICKET IN LIFE, so they HAVE the right to bitch. I’m sorry.

    If anyone is a cry baby it is Fat Lamps and Terry who bitched and moaned about demanding raise increases after not being useful to their teams, inconsistent on the pitch, and unreliable in their roles. Now THEY are the biggest cry babies of them all and do not deserve anywhere near the salary they earn. Any other manager who didn’t have money coming out all orifices would have sensibly laughed at their demands, put them and their egos in place and sent them packing. PUH-LEEZ! Open your eyes ladies who love them so!

  60. The Fourth Official says:

    klyn312, I hear you.  When Cristiano sits on the turf, slamming his fists on the ground in petulant frustration, I am usually screaming at the television:  “If you’re so f**king mad, just get up and win possession again and score a f**king goal.“  Which he usually does.  Which is why we all put up with it. It’s part and parcel of the player.  I wouldn’t really change anything about Cristiano, as long as he is scoring 30+ goals.  Who would?  BTW, does anyone know why Ferdinand was giving Nani an earful after the match last night?  Rio looked mighty mighty displeased.

  61. Erinti says:

    A little bit of well-applied crying rends the viewer’s heart and makes the crier terribly sympathetic (and, in the case of an attractive man being viewed by a straight woman, rather hot). Too much crying does the opposite. Cesc up there? Is hot. And totally makes me want to hug him.

  62. klyn312 says:

    YIKES! that Pic of CR is so pathetic..

    Although I live and breathe MUFC-  I must admit that I’m utterly embarrassed by CR’s behavior at times…

    this poses another question tho… Does his talent (or complete yumminess) excuse his spoiled child behavior??? 

    I say no, but sometimes I feel like a mama bird with my boys and chalk it up to him being so young with so much “responsibility”. I know I know.. no excuse.
    <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/ohoh.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="oh oh" style="border:0;" />

  63. c9 says:

    I don’t think I’d classify Cristiano as a spoiled child, maybe a spoiled MAN. But as a child who was rarely anything but spoiled, mostly because he was on his own at such a young age. Maybe he’s making up for it as an adult.

    But wasn’t that picture taken during the time when his father had passed that year? It made for more emotion from cr7, seeing that his father was very important to him downer

    Also as a devoted MUFC fan like you, I agree I do yell for Cris to get up after he falls, just because you know it’s not always an intentional one.  oh oh

  64. kaya says:

    I’m not 100% qualified to comment as I didn’t see the game, just online highlights.
    However, I tend to be pretty forgiving of tearing up on the field. The temper tantrums and diving, not…
    Maybe Messi should have waited until he got in the dressing room to show his frustration, but I can’t say I’d do any different. Remember Messi got the exact same injury, I think at the exact same stage of the CL a couple years ago. He was out for a few months and thus wasn’t part of the team that won the CL that year. I’d cry, too.
    As for Cesc, the crying seemed like nothing on the highlights, so I don’t see what the big deal is. It’s been a tough couple weeks for Arsenal and those kinds of tears come from someone who’s been giving their all and suddenly sees it wasn’t all for naught.
    He’s into it, and that’s hot as far as I’m concerned <img src="http://www.kickette.com/images/smileys/smile.gif&quot; width="19" height="19" alt="smile" style="border:0;" />

  65. Lizzy D says:

    These made me cry a little….
    http://www.as.com/recorte.php?id=LCO&xref=200…
    http://www.futbolactual.com/wp-content/uploads/20…

    This just makes me uncomfortable….
    http://gummidadi.blog.is/users/b4/gummidadi/img/r…

    And for the record, Arsenal had a rough 2 weeks…

    Lizzy D
    First post, sorry if the links don’t work.

  66. tammyv says:

    Becks, Lamps, JT and the boys crying at the end of the Portugal World Cup match still makes me sad.. I loved them for that,

    I hate it when players are crying in angony though, Messi yesterday for example

  67. bienemaja says:

    Oh my god – I feel like I’ve come home after discovering kickette. This is wonderful. Great page!

    About the emotions – anything Cesc does is good. His hair is good. His tears are good. Everything. Makes me want to go and hug him. And maybe other things.

  68. klyn312 says:

    amen to that Cherry and TFO. (you are hilarious btw LOL )

    I have firmly decided that most of the current Arsenal line up is completely mental, so that would explain all the crying as of late.

    I do however think that tears of over whelming joy and pride are just unbelievably hot!  It nods to the possibility that these boys are not just talented pieces of eye candy, but maybe, just maybe, also down to earth men (that I can have my way with in this vulnerable moment of cying.. )  tongue wink

  69. c9 says:

    “But it will be a cold day in hell before I ever shed happy tears for an Arsenal victory.“

    Couldn’t agree with you more TFO. There’s just something about “ARS” that I can’t stand. Maybe it’s Cesc cockiness or how they play the game, very unsportsman like oh oh

    I don’t mind tears if it fits the occasion, but please ballers don’t make it a habit hmmm

  70. The Fourth Official says:

    ROFL! Carly, that is hysterical.  Thanks for that.

  71. MrsXabiAlonso says:

    I LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!!!

    When a baller (note: only a baller, real men do not think it is acceptable for you to cry when your team win’s or loses) cry’s I just melt.
    There are two very different emotion’s depending on whether the tears are for a win or a loss.

    If a player (such s Cesc last night) is crying through such joy and passion then it makes me want to leap on them, rip all their clothes off and…….well you see what I mean. tongue rolleye

    But if they are crying at the end of a game after losing then I just want to hold them close to me, rocking them like a baby and kissing their lips, nose, eye lids.  Just everything to make it all better. smile

    I do think that the crying only gets to me when the player in question is hot.  I can’t see me feeling like this over Pennant, Toure, Neville etc.

    Oh and pmsl @ that clip, what a loser LOL

  72. MonikaVa says:

    Watching the match yeasterday I could pretty much smell his despertness at not scoring and I believe his shot was most of all coming from frustration, not really believing it would go in and then watching it doing just that must felt like biggest relief for him – heard his parents were there, so it must have ment so much against the current CL winners. So no, in this case it was quite normal seeing him react this way

  73. paris says:

    AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW he looks so cute when he cries how adorable, however I agree I do not want this to become a regular occurance with footballers!

  74. Meriam says:

    Also, is it just me that’s been getting really annoyed at the Arsenal players crying lately? I mean, Gallas, Fabregas, who next?

    It just makes them seem so weak.
    Ew.
    Not nice.

  75. Meriam says:

    HAHA, omg, Cassano, lol, that was funny!

    And as for the crying players, I don’t know, I don’t mind if they cry because they won some major trophy or something, but to cry at the end of a game like this, well, seems pretty shameful to me

    That said, my god, Fabregas even looks hot when he’s crying :D
    *sigh*

  76. brandy says:

    Sometimes the cry moves me – and sometimes it embarrasses me! I think the deciding factor is the circumstance and the quantity of tears. Anything involving gushing and sobbing – um, NO!

  77. carly says:

    wink
    Cassano is a complete nutter hehe